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	<title>Comments on: Transformers: Race problems lacking disguise</title>
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	<description>One of many voices that speak out against problems of the portrayal of gender, sexuality and race in comics. I just happen to be a male, white middle class member of the primary comic book target demographic.</description>
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		<title>By: Ragnell</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-18189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie -- Try the link on Arcee.  According to screenwriter Robert Orci, it was because they dreaded being called panderers and explaining.  He sounds like they never bothered to test her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie &#8212; Try the link on Arcee.  According to screenwriter Robert Orci, it was because they dreaded being called panderers and explaining.  He sounds like they never bothered to test her.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Owens</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-18014</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We couldn’t have Arcee because GirlBots need explaining.&quot; 

Actually, we couldn&#039;t have Arcee because she didn&#039;t test well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We couldn’t have Arcee because GirlBots need explaining.&#8221; </p>
<p>Actually, we couldn&#8217;t have Arcee because she didn&#8217;t test well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-17800</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Remember kids, all black people are good with music, hate cops and an look like Fat Albert cast members.&quot;

I&#039;m guessing that refers to the two friends what&#039;s-her-face takes the stolen evidence to. I don&#039;t think those things (being good with music = playing DDR? Not sure if that&#039;s what you&#039;re refering to) necessarily indicated a stereotype towards black people. I saw more of a stereotype about nerds. (Fat, live with their moms, playing videogames, good on computers, etcetera)

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Remember kids, all black people are good with music, hate cops and an look like Fat Albert cast members.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that refers to the two friends what&#8217;s-her-face takes the stolen evidence to. I don&#8217;t think those things (being good with music = playing DDR? Not sure if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re refering to) necessarily indicated a stereotype towards black people. I saw more of a stereotype about nerds. (Fat, live with their moms, playing videogames, good on computers, etcetera)</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: chriso</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-17466</link>
		<dc:creator>chriso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked how Megan Fox&#039;s character at least got to be fairly tough and resourceful. It was a nice contrast to the ridiculousness of believing a woman who looks like a Maxim cover model was somehow in the same high school as Shia LaBeouf who looks like he is barely 16 when he&#039;s actually 21. I liked that she quickly dissed and dismissed her stereotypically asshole-y boyfriend and we didn&#039;t have to see some tired Bully Beats On Nerdy Guy scene.

Was I the only one totally perplexed by John Turturro&#039;s role in the movie? It&#039;s like Michael Bay just really wanted him in there but couldn&#039;t figure out a really organic way to make it happen so they just tacked on that whole &quot;Sector 7&quot; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked how Megan Fox&#8217;s character at least got to be fairly tough and resourceful. It was a nice contrast to the ridiculousness of believing a woman who looks like a Maxim cover model was somehow in the same high school as Shia LaBeouf who looks like he is barely 16 when he&#8217;s actually 21. I liked that she quickly dissed and dismissed her stereotypically asshole-y boyfriend and we didn&#8217;t have to see some tired Bully Beats On Nerdy Guy scene.</p>
<p>Was I the only one totally perplexed by John Turturro&#8217;s role in the movie? It&#8217;s like Michael Bay just really wanted him in there but couldn&#8217;t figure out a really organic way to make it happen so they just tacked on that whole &#8220;Sector 7&#8243; thing.</p>
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		<title>By: VioletSamurai</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-17441</link>
		<dc:creator>VioletSamurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kinda assumed that watching his lights go out as he was quite graphically &lt;i&gt;ripped in half&lt;/i&gt; was an &quot;on-screen&quot; death.

I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re being sarcastic about OP&#039;s grief or not.

I didn&#039;t mind emphasis being placed on the human characters, because all the way back to the original series, &lt;i&gt;Transformers&lt;/i&gt; has a long and distinguished tradition of focusing on human teenagers who more or less trip over their own shoelaces into helping the AutoBots save the world.

Given the choice between no female Transformers and one token, forcibly-gendered, and ultimately disposable Transformer, I&#039;ll take the former option, thanks. I want Arcee to be flushed down the toilet of Things We Just Don&#039;t Talk About. I would, however, prefer to be offered choices other than these.

Aside from that, I can&#039;t help but agree with everything you just said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda assumed that watching his lights go out as he was quite graphically <i>ripped in half</i> was an &#8220;on-screen&#8221; death.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re being sarcastic about OP&#8217;s grief or not.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mind emphasis being placed on the human characters, because all the way back to the original series, <i>Transformers</i> has a long and distinguished tradition of focusing on human teenagers who more or less trip over their own shoelaces into helping the AutoBots save the world.</p>
<p>Given the choice between no female Transformers and one token, forcibly-gendered, and ultimately disposable Transformer, I&#8217;ll take the former option, thanks. I want Arcee to be flushed down the toilet of Things We Just Don&#8217;t Talk About. I would, however, prefer to be offered choices other than these.</p>
<p>Aside from that, I can&#8217;t help but agree with everything you just said.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragnell</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-17367</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, seriously, I really fucking hate the “Bros before hos?” shit. What? THE? FUCK? (Do not want, do not like, do not care if the cool kids are saying it. Do. Not. Want.)&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, here you got a part I liked because the movie quickly debunked that one.  The character who said that ended up &lt;b&gt;walking&lt;/B&gt; ten miles home while the guy with the car picked up the female love interest, and not only that, she saved his life a few scenes later &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; the main character ignored that idiotic maxim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, seriously, I really fucking hate the “Bros before hos?” shit. What? THE? FUCK? (Do not want, do not like, do not care if the cool kids are saying it. Do. Not. Want.)</i></p>
<p>Actually, here you got a part I liked because the movie quickly debunked that one.  The character who said that ended up <b>walking</b> ten miles home while the guy with the car picked up the female love interest, and not only that, she saved his life a few scenes later <i>because</i> the main character ignored that idiotic maxim.</p>
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		<title>By: DFG</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/07/10/transformers-race-problems-lacking-disguise/comment-page-1/#comment-17335</link>
		<dc:creator>DFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t checked out the TV Tropes wiki, then you really should.

&quot;OH HAI! I IZ WHITE! WORLD BE SAVED BY ME!&quot;

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyWhitey

&quot;Anything you can do, he can do better. He can do anything better than you. Oh yes he can, especially if you happen to be of Asian, Indian, African, Aboriginal or Native American descent. It doesn&#039;t matter that you have spent your entire life living in the densest African jungle, being taught the ways of your ancestors since you were old enough to stand up -- the moment Mighty Whitey arrives in your town (most likely as a prisoner of war, an orphan or a lost traveler), you might as well hang up your blowpipe and take up crochet because his European (and therefore superior) genetics have pretty much made you redundant.&quot;

They&#039;ve gone way passed just TV, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t checked out the TV Tropes wiki, then you really should.</p>
<p>&#8220;OH HAI! I IZ WHITE! WORLD BE SAVED BY ME!&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyWhitey" rel="nofollow">http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyWhitey</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Anything you can do, he can do better. He can do anything better than you. Oh yes he can, especially if you happen to be of Asian, Indian, African, Aboriginal or Native American descent. It doesn&#8217;t matter that you have spent your entire life living in the densest African jungle, being taught the ways of your ancestors since you were old enough to stand up &#8212; the moment Mighty Whitey arrives in your town (most likely as a prisoner of war, an orphan or a lost traveler), you might as well hang up your blowpipe and take up crochet because his European (and therefore superior) genetics have pretty much made you redundant.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve gone way passed just TV, btw.</p>
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