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	<title>Comments on: Shades of Gray</title>
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	<description>One of many voices that speak out against problems of the portrayal of gender, sexuality and race in comics. I just happen to be a male, white middle class member of the primary comic book target demographic.</description>
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		<title>By: Katherine Keller</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/02/08/shades-of-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing.

The person in question has known that one of the people behind G-W writes fanfic for several months now. (And there&#039;s oodles of posts to prove this.)  The reason he knows is that he&#039;s a fanficer, too.

And he&#039;s just *now* launching his &quot;ZOMG teh geh prawn!&quot; smear campaign. 

Which causes him to lose *any* moral highground he ever had. 

This is revenge for a perceived slight, this is a *backstab*, pure and simple.

Fandom has 5 deadly sins:
1)You never &quot;out&quot; a writer or vidder.
2)You never give fiction (or vids) to an Actor/Writer/Artist/Other Official Person.
3)You do not have a fellow fan TOS&#039;d.
4)You do not plagiarize.
5)You never use somebody&#039;s fannish activities as a weapon against them in their other endeavors.

He thinks he&#039;s scoring a great moral victory.

Fandom polices its own. 

He thinks he&#039;s struck a blow. Actually, he&#039;s just razed his city and sown his own fields with salt.

He&#039;s about to discover that he&#039;s the biggest kind of untouchable in the very community he wants (so very, *VERY* much) to be a BNF in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing.</p>
<p>The person in question has known that one of the people behind G-W writes fanfic for several months now. (And there&#8217;s oodles of posts to prove this.)  The reason he knows is that he&#8217;s a fanficer, too.</p>
<p>And he&#8217;s just *now* launching his &#8220;ZOMG teh geh prawn!&#8221; smear campaign. </p>
<p>Which causes him to lose *any* moral highground he ever had. </p>
<p>This is revenge for a perceived slight, this is a *backstab*, pure and simple.</p>
<p>Fandom has 5 deadly sins:<br />
1)You never &#8220;out&#8221; a writer or vidder.<br />
2)You never give fiction (or vids) to an Actor/Writer/Artist/Other Official Person.<br />
3)You do not have a fellow fan TOS&#8217;d.<br />
4)You do not plagiarize.<br />
5)You never use somebody&#8217;s fannish activities as a weapon against them in their other endeavors.</p>
<p>He thinks he&#8217;s scoring a great moral victory.</p>
<p>Fandom polices its own. </p>
<p>He thinks he&#8217;s struck a blow. Actually, he&#8217;s just razed his city and sown his own fields with salt.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s about to discover that he&#8217;s the biggest kind of untouchable in the very community he wants (so very, *VERY* much) to be a BNF in.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Dann</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/02/08/shades-of-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Dann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria, Danel, SeanH

It&#039;s partly directed towards teh_no, their statements on scans_daily, and there recent outburst against G-W, that much is certain. It&#039;s also in response to a few places around the blogs/boards where there&#039;s been some attempts to draw G-W into a position on slashfiction. Basically, slashfic isn&#039;t our watch, and the key to a social change movement is to remember what you&#039;re not as much as what you are - G-W handles mainstream comics (given we&#039;re an international community, manga is included as mainstream)

What slashfic writers do with their slashfic, and what fanfic writers do with their fanfic isn&#039;t something I&#039;m going to worry about - unless, y&#039;know, it&#039;s Frank Miller writing homophobic Spartan fanfic, but that&#039;s called &lt;em&gt;300.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria, Danel, SeanH</p>
<p>It&#8217;s partly directed towards teh_no, their statements on scans_daily, and there recent outburst against G-W, that much is certain. It&#8217;s also in response to a few places around the blogs/boards where there&#8217;s been some attempts to draw G-W into a position on slashfiction. Basically, slashfic isn&#8217;t our watch, and the key to a social change movement is to remember what you&#8217;re not as much as what you are &#8211; G-W handles mainstream comics (given we&#8217;re an international community, manga is included as mainstream)</p>
<p>What slashfic writers do with their slashfic, and what fanfic writers do with their fanfic isn&#8217;t something I&#8217;m going to worry about &#8211; unless, y&#8217;know, it&#8217;s Frank Miller writing homophobic Spartan fanfic, but that&#8217;s called <em>300.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/02/08/shades-of-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danel - it&#039;s a response to &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2920474.html?thread=101668890#t101668890&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this discussion&lt;/a&gt; at the LiveJournal community scans_daily in a (very NSFW, link only shows comments) post in which teh_no shared some scans from a cracky Italian porn comic and made a sarcastic comment on the portrayal of the &quot;strong&quot; woman in the comic which was misunderstood by a handful of people.

While his response (&lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2930670.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here (NSFW - porn and violence)&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://teh-no.livejournal.com/283858.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) was very childish and stupid (the one in his own journal), I honestly don&#039;t believe this argument should ever have started.

What have we become if we&#039;re so defensive that we can&#039;t even recognize sarcasm when we see it?

(I sure do hope html works in comments, I&#039;ve never commented here before.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danel &#8211; it&#8217;s a response to <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2920474.html?thread=101668890#t101668890" rel="nofollow">this discussion</a> at the LiveJournal community scans_daily in a (very NSFW, link only shows comments) post in which teh_no shared some scans from a cracky Italian porn comic and made a sarcastic comment on the portrayal of the &#8220;strong&#8221; woman in the comic which was misunderstood by a handful of people.</p>
<p>While his response (<a href="http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2930670.html" rel="nofollow">here (NSFW &#8211; porn and violence)</a> and <a href="http://teh-no.livejournal.com/283858.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) was very childish and stupid (the one in his own journal), I honestly don&#8217;t believe this argument should ever have started.</p>
<p>What have we become if we&#8217;re so defensive that we can&#8217;t even recognize sarcasm when we see it?</p>
<p>(I sure do hope html works in comments, I&#8217;ve never commented here before.)</p>
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		<title>By: SeanH</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/02/08/shades-of-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-2025</link>
		<dc:creator>SeanH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danel:
There&#039;s somebody with the handle (are we calling them &quot;handles&quot; anymore?) &#039;teh_no&#039; on the LJ community scans_daily, I&#039;m guessing this is about him? I think I saw him take a jab at girl-wonder.org once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danel:<br />
There&#8217;s somebody with the handle (are we calling them &#8220;handles&#8221; anymore?) &#8216;teh_no&#8217; on the LJ community scans_daily, I&#8217;m guessing this is about him? I think I saw him take a jab at girl-wonder.org once.</p>
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		<title>By: Danel</title>
		<link>http://www.girl-wonder.org/designatedsidekick/2007/02/08/shades-of-gray/comment-page-1/#comment-2015</link>
		<dc:creator>Danel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but what&#039;s this a response to? I&#039;ve got very little idea what&#039;s going here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but what&#8217;s this a response to? I&#8217;ve got very little idea what&#8217;s going here.</p>
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